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Baker Briefing | Edward P. Djerejian Center for the Middle East | Women’s Rights, Human Rights, and Refugees | Podcast

Rethinking Climate Migration: Agency and Adaptability

March 17, 2025 | Julia Blocher, David M. Satterfield
Wildfire erupts near houses on a hill

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Julia Blocher

Visiting Scholar

David M. Satterfield

Director, Baker Institute for Public Policy | Janice and Robert McNair Chair in Public Policy

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“You can think of climate change as adding to kind of a toxic cocktail for poor and marginalized people, by which the structural vulnerabilities that put people — and especially minorities or people in poverty — at disproportionate exposure to climate change impacts are also [affecting those] who have few capabilities to face those impacts.”  — Julia Blocher, Ph.D.

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The climate crisis is driving more and more people around the world to leave their homes and communities, often permanently. This isn’t an issue for the distant future: 26.4 million displacements related to natural disasters and slow-onset events like drought and sea-level rise were recorded around the world in 2023 alone.

Julia Blocher, a project lead at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research and a visiting scholar at the Baker Institute this spring, joined the “Baker Briefing” podcast to discuss the phenomenon of climate migration around the world and in the United States. Together, Blocher and David M. Satterfield explore the relationship between climate change and migration, the disproportionate impacts for disadvantaged people and marginalized groups, and why it’s important to understand migration as a possible adaptation to the climate crisis.

This conversation was recorded on Feb. 18, 2025. Subscribe and listen to “Baker Briefing” on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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A full transcript of this episode is available here. This transcript was AI-generated and has not been through editorial review.

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