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Religion and Public Policy | Podcast

Between Pulpit and Policy: Christian Nationalism and the Texas Legislature

February 3, 2026 | Michael O. Emerson, Mark P. Jones
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Michael O. Emerson

Harry and Hazel Chavanne Fellow in Religion and Public Policy and Director of the Religion and Public Policy Program

Mark P. Jones

Fellow in Political Science | CES Lead, Argentina | Joseph D. Jamail Chair in Latin American Studies

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“So I would expect, as long as [lawmakers] have power to keep pushing for more things, a lot of what they'll be doing is not necessarily framing [their policy agenda] as Christian nationalism, but framing it as religious freedom. Then we run into the problem of when we were talking about freedom, are we talking about the freedom to practice religion as you want or the freedom to impose your religion on others?”

— Eric McDaniel, Ph.D., Nonresident Fellow of the Baker Institute

About the Episode

How has faith – particularly Christian nationalism – become a powerful force shaping Texas politics and public policy? How should policymakers approach religion?

Joined by Baker Institute fellows Eric McDaniel and Mark P. Jones, guest host Michael O. Emerson unpacks what Christian nationalism is, how it differs from religious conservatism, and why Texas has emerged as a key testing ground for its political influence. From abortion policy and education vouchers to immigration, gender identity, and higher education, the conversation explores how religiously framed ideas motivate lawmakers.

This is the first episode in a four-part series, “Between Pulpit and Policy,” exploring the rising influence of faith, particularly Christian nationalism, in Texas politics — and how it’s transforming public policy and governance. The series was produced in partnership with the Baker Institute Student Forum.

This conversation was recorded on Oct. 17, 2025. 

Mentioned in this episode:

  • Texas House Bill 7, 89th Leg., S.S., 2025 (link).
  • Texas Senate Bill 8, 89th Leg., S.S., 2025 (link).
  • Texas Senate Bill 2, 89th Leg., R.S., 2025 (link).
  • Texas Senate Bill 10, 89th Leg., R.S., 2025 (PDF).
  • Jo Yurcaba, “Texas A&M Fires Professor Over Gender-Identity Lesson in Literature Course,” NBC News.

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About ‘Texas Briefing’

“Texas Briefing” brings expert insights to the policy challenges shaping life in the Lone Star State. Through topical miniseries, institute scholars and their guests untangle issues in health, the economy, climate resilience, and more to understand how policy matters are impacting communities from the Panhandle to the Gulf Coast.

Select episodes of our “Baker Briefing” and “Texas Briefing” podcasts are recorded in front of a live studio audience at Rice University in Houston, Texas. These recordings are free and open to the public. To learn about upcoming recordings and other public programming from the Baker Institute, subscribe to our “Events Digest” newsletter, delivered weekly.

 

 

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