Between Pulpit and Policy: The Politics of Faith and Science in Texas
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Author(s)
Michael O. Emerson
Harry and Hazel Chavanne Fellow in Religion and Public Policy and Director of the Religion and Public Policy Program
Neal F. Lane
Senior Fellow in Science and Technology Policy | Professor of Physics and Astronomy EmeritusHeidi Russell
Director, Center for Health Policy, L.E. and Virginia Simmons Senior Fellow in Health Policy, Huffington Fellow in Child Health Policy“I think you start out with the public just coming in, assuming that there’s a conflict that it’s either or — it’s religion or science. And so you somehow have to get over that barrier, because that is simply not the case.”
— Neal F. Lane, Ph.D., Senior Fellow at the Baker Institute and Professor Emeritus at Rice University
About the Episode
How can scientists interact with religious beliefs that increasingly shape public policy? Must there exist a separation between faith and science?
Michael O. Emerson sits with Neal F. Lane, the Baker Institute’s senior fellow in science and technology, and Heidi Russell, the director of the Center for Health Policy, to dive into the complex, often misunderstood relationship among faith, science, and public policy. They explore how religious values and scientific evidence collide, and sometimes coexist, from the courtroom to the hospital bedside.
This is the third episode in a four-part series, “Between Pulpit and Policy,” exploring the rising influence of faith, particularly Christian nationalism, in Texas politics — and how it’s transforming public policy and governance. The series was produced in partnership with the Baker Institute Student Forum.
This conversation was recorded on Nov. 7, 2025.
Mentioned in this episode:
- Francis S. Collins, The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief.
- Texas House Joint Resolution 90, 89th Leg., R.S., 2025 (link).
- Texas Senate Joint Resolution 59, 89th Leg., R.S., 2025 (link).
- Texas Senate Bill 17, 88th Leg., R.S., 2023, (link).
- Texas House Bill 229, 89th Leg., R.S., 2025, (link).
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